Todd: Now Norman, you've lived in Japan for awhile. Have you lived in any other countries?

Norman: Yes, I've lived in Germany as well.

Todd: Germany?

Norman: Yes, I lived for five years. I had two contracts in Germany. The first one in the seventies, for three years. I was an immersion teacher which means that they're English students at the elementary level who take all their courses in French. So with a particular second language approach I would teach them not only French but I would teach them mathematics in French, science in French, visual arts in French, physical education in French

Todd: Wow, in Germany.

Norman: In Germany, yes! This was for the Canadian Armed forces. They.. usually it's the man, the father who's there as a soldier but sometimes it's the woman. But they have.. they do have children and there was a need for some Canadian schooling. They hire teachers to teach the children of military personnel.

Todd: Wow! What a cool job. What did you think about Germany?

Norman: Germany is very interesting and that.. it's a very lively country, I find. I enjoyed certainly the nature part. Every weekend, Susan and I tried to go on what they call volksmarch, which means it's.. & quot;volks & quot; means popular, popular walk. You have a choice of five kilometers, ten kilometers or fifteen kilometers walk and at the end, once you complete the walk, you get a medal and the walk is always in some nice village. You go up the hills, up the mountains, you have beautiful sights and every now and then they have some kind of a food stand with a Bavarian band playing and then you have those Bavarian sausages and it's just a whole lot of fun so we would take our children along with us and it would be quite an event.

Todd: That's nice. How long did you live in Germany?

Norman: I lived there five years total. 75 to 78, for a three year contract and then 85 to 87, a two year contract.

Todd: Wow, so you speak German as well?

Norman: I do, I do but now I have not spoken it for quite a long time so it would take a little bit of let's say, review.

Todd: Wow! tri-lingual. That's cool.

Norman: Thank you.