Todd: OK, so now we are going to talk about other people. So you can talk about somebody else, a friend, a family, a celebrity. Who would you like to talk about?

Roe: Anybody?

Todd: Anybody.

Roe: Who rips.

Todd: Who rips? What does & quot;rips & quot; mean?

Roe: Ripping means if you are like a surfer, if you say he rips, he is really good.

Todd: Oh, OK. He rips! Wow, so just for surfing?

Roe: And windsurfing, too.

Todd: He rips. Skateboarding?

Roe: Yeah. Skateboarding too.

Todd: Skateboarding, he rips.

Roe: Yeah, it means he can make some great moves.

Todd: Great turns, great flips. OK, who rips?

Roe: Just go to the beach and you see it. Like, you don't even have to talk. You just have to see it and if you rip then you get respect and if you talk.. if you have a chance to talk to the guy, it's almost always that he is a nice guy.

Todd: Really?

Roe: Well, 99 percent.

Todd: So guys who rip are nice guys.

Roe: Nice guys. Like nice, meaning..it's nothing like talking to a salary man.

Todd: Wow, so very easy-going, very friendly, not serious.

Roe: Yes. Like open.. no attitude, it's like a way to elaborate.

Todd: OK, so do you rip?

Roe: No. I'm in progress. I'm trying. It's hard. It's hard to rip though.

Todd: But you said earlier that you are very good windsurfing so you are closest to ripping at windsurfing.

Roe: Man, In my dreams but in reality I'm.. no, I'm trying.

Todd: Maybe you're being modest. So a modest person doesn't say he rips or he is good

Roe: You got the point. No I was just kidding, I can't rip.

Todd: OK, who is the best surfer in the world?

Roe: Robbie Naish.

Todd: Robbie Naish. What country does he come from?

Roe: Hawaii.

Todd: Oh, so he's hawaiian. He's American.

Roe: Yeah, fom Oahu.

Todd: From Oahu, so he surfs on waves. How big are the waves that Robbie Naish surfs on?

Roe: OK like Jaws, there is a specific point in Maui, Hawaii Maui, and it's called Jaws cause people say that there are a lot of sharks at the point but anyway, at Jaws 25 meters or 30 meters in winter.

Todd: Man, that's high. 25 to 30 meters. That's what? Three stories? Maybe!

Roe: That's like from here to the basement.

Todd: Wow! And were on the second floor so that's three stories.

Roe: Oh, right.

Todd: Man, that's high. That's really high. What's the highest wave you've ever surfed on? So you're standing up here. The ceiling?

Roe: Yeah! Probably the ceiling.

Todd: So that's what, maybe 10 feet.

Roe: I don't know the feet stuff.

Todd: So that would be, 3, 4 meters.

Roe: Yeah, 3, 4 meters probably.

Todd: Wow, that's still pretty high.

Roe: Yeah, if you are in the ocean you are like lying down right, so it's quite high actually, yeah, if you're standing up it doesn't seem that high but..

Todd: But when you're on the ground, you're right, when you're lying flat on your stomach, you're right it would seem very high. So Robbie Naish, does he make a lot of money surfing?

Roe: Yep.

Todd: He's a rich man.

Roe: He's a billionaire.

Todd: Wow, has he ever come to Japan?

Roe: Many times.

Todd: Really?

Roe: Yep.

Todd: Wow.

Roe: For promotion.

Todd: For promotion.

Roe: He owns a boarding, sailing and what have you. He owns a lot of companies. Yeah, he's smart too. Nice guy.

Todd: Nice guy because he rips.