Todd: OK, now Jeff, you made a movie recently. Can you talk a little about what your movie is about?

Jeff: OK, Todd, I want to qualify that it is not a movie. It's a television documentary. Very big difference, but actually a movie and a documentary, there's not a lot of difference. I think the main difference is probably time. There's a beginning and a middle and an ending to both, but television documentary must be done in 46 minutes plus commercials and a movie is two hours or three hours.

Todd: OK, well thanks for that. OK so it's a documentary. What is the documentary about?

Jeff: Our documentary is about Indian life, and about our life interacting with the Indians. We're driving a small auto-rickshaw, which is a three-wheeled. It's a three wheeled car, a mini-threewheeled car without doors and it doesn't go very fast and it's very uncomfortable and we drive that from the eastern border at Bangladesh to the western border of Pakistan, and we drive it straight across to Northern India.

Todd: Wow, that's some idea. Where did you get this idea? Why did you decide & quot;Hey, I'm going to go film you know, going across India?

Jeff: Well, we'd been to India numerous times and it's an amazing country and we wanted to go back and we wanted to do something, we wanted to do some sort of video or documentary there and we wanted to do something unique that hasn't been done before there and this sort of just popped up in our heads through discussion and kicking around certain ideas, so it was just sort of an inspirational, spur of the moment thing. They're everywhere in India and we saw one and said & quot;Let's drive one across India so it was sort of just came to mind. & quot;

Todd: Wow! Well if you had to describe your trip or sum up what the whole experience was like, how would you describe it?

Jeff: I think the best word to use to describe the trip was stupid! I don't think anyone would recommend doing it to anyone. I wouldn't do it again and it was very dangerous. It was very uncomfortable. It was very hot, very noisy. It did nothing. I think the main thing it did was take a few years off my life but it was an experience. It wasn't fun but it was a good experience.

Todd: Alright. Thanks Jeff.