Todd:Alex, when you were little, what did you like to do?

Alex: When I was small and I was in junior high school, we used to like playing soccer with my friends. Actually in Kenya, what's different from our country's like.. we used to make our own soccer ball to play. So, it's very easy.

Todd:Wow. How do you make the soccer ball?

Alex: We used to collect like plastic papers and bind them with string, around them to make something round. So it was like, you didn't have to spend any money.

Todd: Wow, that's ingenious. That's great. So, were you a good soccer player?

Alex: Not really. I used to like playing soccer but I was not very good actually, to tell the truth.

Todd:Yeah, me too. I wasn't a very good athlete. I mean I like sports but I was never very good. So do you play soccer in Japan?

Alex: Sometimes, until last year when I was in school I still played soccer. Right now, actually I'm not playing anymore because I'm like busy.

Todd: Yeah.

Alex: Yeah. You can't play soccer without a big group of people and everyone is busy right now so I'm not playing anymore.

Todd: Yeah, that's a bummer. Like I always want to play sports but it's hard as you get older. When's the last time you played soccer?

Alex: About one year ago. I think November of 199...2003, November.

Todd: OK. Actually in Kenya do you call it soccer or football?

Alex: In Kenya you call it football.

Todd: Football. I'm sorry.

Alex: Actually, I've been in Japan for sometime so I'm used to calling it soccer. In Kenya you call it football.

Todd: Thanks Alex.